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M-Rick
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 Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: Bugs in PowerCADD 8 |
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Some bugs i reported in PowerCADD 8 :
- When importing a drawing made in a previous version, if it uses metric units, PC8 will open it with square feets, it will not keep the grid settings and the pushed value will be set in inches.
- When importing images in a drawing, the picture is imported twice at the same time.
- Drag and Drop of images from Finder, iMedia Browser and certain other graphic apps (Photoshop included) will not work.
- PC8 will not support recent EPS format supported by QuickTime while the import filter is supposed to be QuickTime based when every vector based app on Mac OS X support it ... And it will only imported an old outdated format. |
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phansford
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Location: SW Ohio
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I haven't reported them.....
but why can't I press "return" (like in PC6) to stop dimensioning when I am using any of the string dimension tools.... I have to press "esc" 
Why do I have to hear a "ping" every time I move with the mouse? How can I shut that off !!!!
There is some functionality things that are annoying as hell in PC8. If I hadn't made the investment in new intel machines and if certain programs hadn't started to lose their functionality in 10.3..... I might not have made the switch.
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JoeBean
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
New user to the forum but I've been lurking for a while. On the topic of bugs there are some annoying issues with importing metric dwg/dxf's in PC8 that haven't been addressed. At first everything that was imported from modelspace was off by a factor of 10 (ie. a square 100x100mm would import as 1000x1000mm). They addressed that by allowing a change in drawing units, as they were assuming cm apparently instead of mm. Now that's fixed but there are 2 or 3 other issues:
The paper size is wacky - if you go to import into a stationary that's say ANSIB it'll change the paper size in import to something else, like ISO A2. But then when it actually imports the paper size is changed again because the scale will be too large to fit on the paper it "suggests". 99% of the time importing to anything other than blank stationary, then, results in a mess. Which brings me to the second issue, the scales that can be chosen are nonsensical.
For example, suppose I had a large rectangle drawn in mm in a dwg that would just barely fit on A2 at a scale of 1:10, you would think that I'd be able to import at 1:20 or 1:50 or 1:100 or whatever without problems, but it won't allow it. Instead, it WILL allow 1:2, 1:4 etc. Then change the paper size as mentioned above, and then even span multiple sheets if necessary to get the drawing there.
The core issue wrt the import scale issues seems to be that the upper and lower limits that they're using, after which the red warning will come up and say "scale must be 1:xx.xx or less", aren't working properly in modelspace for metric dwgs. For one thing, the xx.xx number is incorrect by a factor of 2.54 (clearly an imperial --> metric issue). For example, if it says "scale must be 1:2.54 or less" 1:2.53 won't work. But 1:1 will. So that needs fixing. But even if it were working correctly the limits seem arbitrary and overly restrictive. In other words portions of drawings that should easily be able to be imported at, say, 1:50 or even 1:100 have warnings coming up limiting scale to 1:43.2333 or somesuch nonsense. When I've chosen to use PowerCADD I've usually imported the drawings into a blank template at 1:10 and then scale them down 1:5 or 1:10 again and then copied it over to a working drawing, but it's a PITA.
I've reported this several times, but nobody seems to be willing or to know how to fix it, and it just goes unaddressed. That's unfortunate as I had hoped to switch our whole office to PowerCADD from AutoCAD, but now PowerCADD is mostly just for me to play with. We can't afford to always be going back and forth between systems depending on the job. I know a lot of Engsw's customers probably aren't doing as much inter-operating with outside drawings as we do but I would have thought that importing dwgs/dxfs would have been better when it was advertised as working. :( |
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John Cruet
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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Location: Guilford, CT
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Bugs in PowerCADD 8 |
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| M-Rick wrote: | Some bugs i reported in PowerCADD 8 :
- When importing a drawing made in a previous version, if it uses metric units, PC8 will open it with square feets, it will not keep the grid settings and the pushed value will be set in inches. |
So why not change it back using the Drawing Setup?
I'm skeptical, since this behavior does not occur on my computer.
| Quote: | | - When importing images in a drawing, the picture is imported twice at the same time. |
So I imported a JPG. Only one image at a time imported.
| Quote: | | - Drag and Drop of images from Finder, iMedia Browser and certain other graphic apps (Photoshop included) will not work. |
It is highly likely that PowerCadd doesn't support drag and drop from other applications into PowerCadd. I tried drag-dropping a Jpg into PowerCadd and it did not work. I do NOT consider non-support a bug. And neither should you.
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PowerCadd 8, WT 9
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John Cruet
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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Location: Guilford, CT
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| JoeBean wrote: | Hi,
The paper size is wacky - if you go to import into a stationary that's say ANSIB it'll change the paper size in import to something else, like ISO A2. But then when it actually imports the paper size is changed again because the scale will be too large to fit on the paper it "suggests". 99% of the time importing to anything other than blank stationary, then, results in a mess. Which brings me to the second issue, the scales that can be chosen are nonsensical. |
I don't consider this a bug. Why? Because when you import a paper space document from another program, or one which allegedly was set up for print to a specific printer, it will never import to the paper size that you want. For example, I am importing a DWG from a file that was set up to print b size on an HP 650. So I import it at the proper scale and there is an overlap in the graphic image to the paper boundary. All the time, I have to use Page Setup to correct this problem. I expect this will occur even if you use the exact same printer that the other user uses.
For all other issues you describe, I strongly recommend that you read the PowerCadd manual.
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John Cruet
G4/733 w/1028 mb RAM & OS 10.4.10, Classic-free, skuzzy-free (runs PC7)
MacBook Pro 2G Intel core duo 2 gig RAM & OS 10.5.4.
PowerCadd 8, WT 9
Canon iP710 printer
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barnabythebear
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I can confirm the double import of all bitmaps.
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John Cruet
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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Location: Guilford, CT
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a whopper of a bug- in the latest DWG translator.
I took a survey file and used the PowerCadd 7 translator. The original DWG file was 316 KB. Using the PowerCadd 7 translator resulted in a file that was 400 KB.
I took this same survey file and translated it using the PowerCadd 8 translator. The resultant file is 5000 KB! Content is the same!
I'm glad I retained the PC7 translator. I'll load up my hard drive in no time using the PC8 translator.
The folks at Engineered Software have some explaining to do!
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John Cruet
G4/733 w/1028 mb RAM & OS 10.4.10, Classic-free, skuzzy-free (runs PC7)
MacBook Pro 2G Intel core duo 2 gig RAM & OS 10.5.4.
PowerCadd 8, WT 9
Canon iP710 printer
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M-Rick
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 106
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: Re: Bugs in PowerCADD 8 |
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| John Cruet wrote: | | M-Rick wrote: | Some bugs i reported in PowerCADD 8 :
- When importing a drawing made in a previous version, if it uses metric units, PC8 will open it with square feets, it will not keep the grid settings and the pushed value will be set in inches. |
So why not change it back using the Drawing Setup?
I'm skeptical, since this behavior does not occur on my computer. |
Yes it is not difficult to change the settings, but i shouldn't have to do it.
| John Cruet wrote: | | M-Rick wrote: | | - When importing images in a drawing, the picture is imported twice at the same time. |
So I imported a JPG. Only one image at a time imported. |
Try with other file format like pict or bmp and you will see.
| John Cruet wrote: | | M-Rick wrote: | | - Drag and Drop of images from Finder, iMedia Browser and certain other graphic apps (Photoshop included) will not work. |
It is highly likely that PowerCadd doesn't support drag and drop from other applications into PowerCadd. I tried drag-dropping a Jpg into PowerCadd and it did not work. I do NOT consider non-support a bug. And neither should you. |
Untrue, in version 6, it was possible to drag drawings from a browser like Safari or Omniweb, iPhoto, Illustrator, Photoshop, Word and some other softwares to PowerCADD. iMedia Browser didn't work, it just used to copy the name, so at least it was possible to improve the support, but in PC8 it is a downgrade feature since it is not possible anymore for at least the softwares used to be able to before.
I didn't try with the demo of PC7 but i think it is possible too. |
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patrickm
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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Location: santa barbara, ca
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Just for kicks, I just looked at the survey that I imported the other day into PC8 -- it imported as a 1.5 mb file with 16,827 objects, with the Text set to "visually accurate". I just went back and imported the same survey into PC7 -- it imported as a 392 kb file with 1,118 objects. If I import that same survey into PC8 with the Text set to "editable", then the file size becomes 2.2 mb. The original survey DWG was 1.4 mb. I don't know what to make of all of this. Even though PC8 creates a larger file, I find the importing process easier and it does include the DWG's hatches.
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John Cruet
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| patrickm wrote: | | Just for kicks, I just looked at the survey that I imported the other day into PC8 -- it imported as a 1.5 mb file with 16,827 objects, with the Text set to "visually accurate".... |
The file that imported as 5 mb. imported to 2.5 mb with the text set to "visually accurate."
Still too big. Still a bug.
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M-Rick
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Another bug I found :
When clicking on the green button of the edit palette with the alt key down, ALL the displayed palettes will be resized in full screen except the edit one.
Look at the screen capture below. It happens only with the edit palette, when the palettes are resized if they are not resizable you can't make them get their initial size excepting by leaving the application.
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Matt
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Location: Sterling, Virginia
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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the most serious deficiency in PowerCADD is the dwg translator.
If there is one thing that Engineered Software can do to ensure their long-term viability, it is to make the dwg translator seamless. They have made considerable progress, but the process of importing or exporting a file is not yet painless.
This issue has cost me more time -- and hurt my relationships with the consultants I work with -- more than I care to say. |
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